At one time, it was often said that the Welsh were lucky because ‘we were the Irish who couldn’t swim’. In addition, many Irishmen and women, throughout the ages, have been scathing about their home country and the capital city of Dublin.
James Joyce, one of Ireland’s most famous sons, stated that he chose his capital city - fondly known for years as the ‘dirty old town’ - for a particular scene in one of his books because it seemed to him the centre of paralysis.
How things have changed during the last twenty years, as Ireland has transformed itself from a third world agricultural-based country to one of the best performing economies in the industrialised world, with industries such as software, food, cultural industries, financial services and pharmaceuticals continuing to grow.
Today, the Welsh can only look on admiringly as Ireland has become the epitome of a modern, high technology economy, with a young creative and highly educated workforce that is the envy of nations throughout the World.
Living in Wales, it is easy to forget that we are one of the nearest parts of the United Kingdom to the heart of this remarkable transformation in Ireland, namely Dublin. With today’s fast ferries, you can be sipping a pint of Guinness in the port of Dun Laoghaire within ninety nine minutes of waving goodbye to Holyhead.
Despite this nearness to our now prosperous Irish neighbour, there seems to have been little visible effort within Wales to build strong linkages with the fastest growing city in the fastest growing economy in Europe.
Many will say that there is little we can learn from such a prosperous part of Europe, given that we are a poor region that has qualified for Objective 1 support. However, we mustn’t forget that as recently as 1987, Irish living standards were 65% of the European average, below that of the poorest counties in Wales.
So what do we need to do here in Wales to emulate the economic miracle that is Dublin and Ireland?
First of all, our civic and business leaders must take the lead and fully commit us to working closely with our Irish cousins, taking full advantage of the competitive edge that, through accident of geography and circumstance, other parts of the UK mainland do not have. If we do not take such a development seriously within Wales, then we cannot expect individuals and organisations in Ireland to do the same.
Secondly, we must look to take advantage of the experience of success that a city like Dublin has had, but also look to attract Irish businesses and individuals to areas in North and West Wales region. Whilst Dublin has become enormously prosperous, success has come with a price.
House and land prices are astronomically high, road congestion has brought traffic to a near standstill, and skills shortages have led to high wages that many businesses are finding it difficult to afford. If marketed properly, North and West Wales has the potential - with its low land prices, strong infrastructure, various European funding opportunities and access to world class universities to provide a skilled workforce - to become a magnet for Irish firms wishing to expand.
Indeed, there is no reason, given that one of the World’s centres for software development is eighty miles away, that the fledgling computer industry on Parc Menai in Gwynedd cannot grow exponentially given the right encouragement and support.
Finally, it is clear that the Irish tourism industry has managed to capture a substantial overseas market which we can only envy. There is clearly a lot that can be learnt from this, and our tourism operators will need to look carefully at ways in which we could imitate and improve on the cultural experience that makes the Emerald Isle such a popular place with visitors from all over the World.
This does not mean that we cannot also be proactive in taking advantage of the fact that we have over 1.5 million potential tourists living in Dublin alone. Given the increasing prosperity of the young Dublin population, there is no reason why the mountains and coastline of North Wales could not, with the right type of strategy, be marketed more effectively to the Irish as the place for weekend breaks for sailing, mountain biking, walking and climbing.
Having been born in Bangor and having lived and worked in Dublin for two years, I would love to see the day when both cities are willing and able to become twinned as equals. Perhaps, that is the Welsh (rather than the Irish) romantic in me.
However, I do believe there is no reason why Wales could not, given the right drive, enthusiasm, energy and a bit of luck, emulate the success of our Irish cousins.
Perhaps one day, the ability to swim will not be the only differentiating factor between our two countries.
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Dylan says....
"However, I do believe there is no reason why Wales could not, given the right drive, enthusiasm, energy and a bit of luck, emulate the success of our Irish cousins."
johnny says....
Unfortunately, there is a major stumbling block to these ambitious ideas.
The proposal to enshrine, within a New Welsh Language Act, the use of legislative force, compulsion by diktat and threat of Civil proceedings against any company of five employees or over who fail to provide the full range of their goods or services via the medium of the Welsh Language.
This is tantamount to a language tax on any company wishing to locate in Wales. This added burden of cost will, obviously, have to be factored into their costings and will impose an element of non-cost-effectiveness into their business plans.
It naturally follows that the 'prime' positions in these companies will have to be allocated to Welsh speakers, as this would be a primary qualification for employment, irrespective of their abilities or qualifications.
It must be noted too, that the vast majority of jobs that require spoken and written Welsh are Publicly funded and obviously eliminate many eminent and qualified candidates as a result of their inability to speak, or unwillingness to learn Welsh. This, IMHO, is just another example of the Welsh dependency culture that seems to pervade the Nationalist cause and its proposals.
This is hardly good business sense.
The Nationalist cause continually looks towards the Scots and Irish as a template for their Nationalistic aspirations but fail to note that neither of these have any language compulsion in the operation or supply of goods or services.
The New Welsh Language Act further proposes that if any Welsh speaker is unable to access goods or services via the medium of Welsh, they would be able to sue the 'offending' company for punitive damages for "hurt to their feelings".
Of course, it must be firmly noted that there is no Welsh speaker in Wales who is not fully conversant in English.
This is hardly an inducement or encouragement to any potential business influx to Wales.
I am personally aware of at least two successful and expanding companies in Wales, employing about fifty employees, who, as part of their business development plans, are seeking to expand, just over the border, in England, in order to alleviate the possible burden of these Nationalistic proposals and to retain their competitive edge in their supply of goods and services to the good folk of Wales.
Of course, the Welsh workforce should be made aware that, if these linguistic proposals come to fruition, it will be at their cost, in terms of salary structure and earning potential, as any businesses operating within Wales would not wish to further burden any potential customers with costs on purely linguistic criteria.
We should immediately drop these rather silly language proposals and follow our Celtic cousins to economic success.
Your postulative pal.
johnny.
Dylan, I agree with your proposals. As an Ulsterman, I too admire how the Republic of Ireland has transformed its economy, particularly with the ICT industry and tourism. Northern Ireland could, and is trying to, learn a lot from its neighbour.
I spent a fantastic long August bank holiday weekend in Bangor, N Wales last summer and I know that many other Irish people would be delighted by the friendliness, hospitality and beautiful scenery in Wales. Snowdon would knock their socks off, for example, and the Bryn Terfel Festival would go down well too with many opera-loving Irish folk.
It's often said that people get a raw deal holidaying in the UK. Well, though I've found that to people the case in some Faulty Towers type hotels on the south coast of England, it's never been so in my experience in Wales.
Two typos - sorry
'to be the case' (not people)
and
'Fawlty Towers'
I should proofread!
Perhaps North Wales should have it's own development agency or council. I imagine that most of the Civil Servants and politicians in Cardiff have little idea of the potential of the Gogledd.
When the WDA was in existence, North Wales had autonomy from Cardiff and did some great stuff.
Now under the Assembly, the head of economic development in north wales also has the enterprise portfolio, and spends most of her time shuffling between Cardiff and St Asaph. Not good.
she also hasnt a clue about Wales or Enterprise which is a sad case
.......and no response regarding the language question.
I wonder why?
Your patient pal.
johnny.
General call to all interested parties.
As the language question appears to brought about a distinct silence, I have taken the plunge and created my own blog, which may be found at:
yourpaljohnny.blogspot.com
If you fancy a visit, you are most welcome.
The blog is unmoderated and welcomes comment from all quarters, in particular those interested in the campaign to reduce the massive amount of Public Funds spent on propping up the Welsh Language.
Your pal.
johnny
Apologies to Johnny for not replying but I have been away from my blog for a couple of days working.
I am perfectly happy for you to have your view on the Welsh language on this blog if you so wish, although I do believe it plays a very small part, either way, in any economic success of a nation.
There are far more important factors - education, small business support, infrastructure, business rates, corporate tax levels, science policy, economic inactivity - that are more pertinent to economic development and have a far greater effect on a nation's prosperity than a Welsh language Act, whatever its strength.
Still, good luck with the new website. I am sure it will be popular.
On another note - comments on individuals shouldn't be anonymous- if you have something to say about anyone, have the balls to attach your name to it.
Dylan.
Thanks for your response although my air of mild impatience was not directed towards you in particular. I was hoping for a response from anyone with an opinion. It seems that I have 'struck a chord' with the language question.
I must disagree with your view that the language question is a "small part in the economic success of a nation".
The New Welsh Language Act proposals will clearly pervade ALL of the socio/economic activity in Wales.
If the Nationalists get their way, Welsh will be imposed on every activity in Wales whether we like it or not.
Education, small business support, infrastructure, business rates, corporation tax levels, science policy and economic inactivity will all be required to be operated via the Welsh language for no other reason than the perceived Nationalist political correctness. A simply crazy proposal that must be swiftly nipped in the bud.
The sheer enormity of the financial cost of these proposals will, I believe, have a significant effect on Wales' ability to operate within the wider world.
Monoglot talent will be stifled. Welsh speaking will be seen as a prerequisite for virtually any worthwhile job if these proposals come to fruition.
The language question cannot be left on the 'back burner' as the Nationalists have determined that Welsh will be used irrespective of the People's wishes.
Your proactive pal.
johnny.
"Finally, it is clear that the Irish tourism industry has managed to capture a substantial overseas market which we can only envy"
Are you supporting the devolution of powers to promote Wales as a tourist destination overseas from the British to the Senedd? Otherwise this is just wishfull thinking (with all due respect). Ireland can market itself as it likes internationally - Wales still cannot - the British will not allow it.
Why not?
If it can be shown we are not getting a return on the investment being made by the UK Govt in promoting British tourism, then why not devolve this funding to wales? If we are, then leave it be.
Interstingly, I made the same case over the failure of the Labour Government in the Assembly to support the Botanical Gardens in Wets Wales a number of years ago.
If Kew Gardens in London was receiving £20 million regular public sector support from the UK taxpayer (and is hardly visited by the Welsh populace), then why couldn't five per cent of that be allocated to support our own national garden?
This does not mean that we cannot also be proactive in taking advantage of the fact that we have over 1.5 million potential tourists living in Dublin alone. Given the increasing prosperity of the young Dublin population, there is no reason why the mountains and coastline of North Wales could not, with the right type of strategy, be marketed more effectively to the Irish as the place for weekend breaks for sailing, mountain biking, walking and climbing.
A visiting family of friends from Dublin were genuinely suprised and delighted by their short stay in Caernarfon, and as a result the coast of Gwynedd has gone to the top of their list of places to spend a sunny weekend, weather permitting. Like the vast majority of Dubliners, their previous experience of Wales was limited to Holyhead.
I was hoping for a response from anyone with an opinion.
Don't hold your breath, 'Johnny'. I imagine most people are bored by your rather single-issue anti-Welsh rants, based as they are on the proposals of Cymdeithas rather than on anything outlined by the people who's job it will be to create an actual Act. It is to a degree amusing to watch you spitting blood over the matter, but as you're arguments fail to be intellectually engaging I think it's quite understandable that you will find your comments inspire no great response.
Ordo:
I am puzzled as to why you keep responding to my postings.
I am banned from your blog, yet you seem to unable to resist my somewhat thought provoking postings elsewhere.
Ordo said....
"Don't hold your breath, 'Johnny'. I imagine most people are bored by your rather single-issue anti-Welsh rants,...."
johnny says....
Single issue, eh? One at a time please.
You may have noticed that my comments have engendered a certain amount of interest to date.
Incidentally, there are responses on my blog, from a couple of your pals, that they have, as yet, appeared to have been unable or unwilling to answer. I wonder why?
Perhaps my questions are a little too "intellectually engaging" for the the Nationalists to respond to without resorting to scornful mocking, as you do.
It has been suggested that you delete witty retorts and respond with simply snide remarks. Is this really the best that you can do?
You appear to be unable to engage in debate that questions your standpoint. This has been noted by numerous other bloggers, therefore, I must be doing something right.
It comforts me somewhat to observe that there appears to be an element of division in the Nationalist camp if the Cymdeithas' proposals are not universally supported.
I think that I can safely deduce that my questioning comments have brought the matter to the surface and have prompted much discussion.
That was my intention.
Please feel free to 'stalk' me around the blogmosphere as you wish. You are most welcome.
You say...
"....but as you're (sic) arguments fail to be intellectually engaging..."
That's just your opinion that appears to be shared by few. Could it be that you are implying something else about the intellectual capacity of certain people?
Pray tell.
Your pal.
johnny.
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"If it can be shown we are not getting a return on the investment being made by the UK Govt in promoting British tourism, then why not devolve this funding to wales? If we are, then leave it be."
The British should make a case that they can get a return on investment for Wales before they get a penny of Welsh taxpayers money( thats normal business practice). They have never done it because they can't prove it, even though they have had years and years to do so.
VisitBritain will not even accept targets set for it's performance from the Welsh Government.
VisitBritain's function is to market England, one of our major competitors. No wonder the Irish don't let them market Ireland.
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